His name and that of his company are on everyone's lips, and for good reason! The health crisis will not have made Alan cough, on the contrary. The health insurance co-founded by Jean-Charles Samuelian finalizes a fundraising of 50 million euros in the midst of a global storm. If this scale up of the Next40 with European ambitions sees its mission to simplify and streamline the health system take on even more meaning during the Covid period, it was already on the rise. With user experience as a pillar of its development, it is a school for many entrepreneurs. If Alan's transparency is the standard, Jean-Charles is no exception to the rule for his 40 shades of Next. On the menu, his vision at 10 years old. his view on globalization, the redistribution of value, the potential buyout of Alan or his acquisition projects, but also his view on the Stop-Covid application. The opportunity for listeners to discover his “early pirate methods”, his commitment to the environment, his reading, what he inherited from his parents or even the legacy he wanted to leave to his children. Small surprise, it is Cédric O, Secretary of State for digital and promoter of Next 40 initiated by Mounir Mahjoubi who opens the ball of questions, pro and personal.