In adolescence, some skip classes to assert themselves, others decide to enter Polytechnic then Stanford out of conformism. I'm not sure we have the same definition with Louis Chatriot, Alma's co-founder and CEO, of “anti-conformism!” Until not that long ago, I didn't know Louis but this guy is a bit of a rocket. When you look at his career over the past 10 years, it's amazing: Stripe, Bain & Company, professor at polytechnic, professor at Stanford and the army. In this episode, we do the full learning level: courage, commitment, leadership, humility. Everything goes there, I did not see the time pass. “Whatever project you do, again, who cares. It's not a startup or anything, but it's courage. ”We talk about startups and what it means to work in a startup in terms of engagement. The commitment of employees on the one hand and the commitment of managers on the other with, more particularly, this notion of managerial courage. We also look back on his time at Stripe, the launch of a startup, its positioning and execution, perhaps an essential corollary of success? “We are macro-optimists and micro-pessimists. At the macro level, we know that we are doing a great thing, that we are going in the right direction. But at the micro level, every day, we think that everything is broken and that we must repair this gap ”In the end it is business with a capital B that we examine with Louis Chatriot in this episode: how we create a business, what to pay attention to, how you manage your associates, the importance of values, radical transparency and trust between associates. Zero bullshit, only learning!